Comments on: Top Ten Talent I.D. Tips for High Performance Sport – The T.O.P. Approach http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/talentidtips/ Expert advice, tips and insights for sports coaches Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:38:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Wayne Goldsmith http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/talentidtips/comment-page-1/#comment-5851 Wayne Goldsmith Mon, 09 Aug 2010 09:54:35 +0000 http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/?p=1546#comment-5851 Thanks again Jim. I agree with you (and him) - our role as coaches and sports professionals should be to recognise the unique genius inside every athlete and help them to unleash it. Too many times we find talented kids then force them to learn our ways, our methods and adopt our coaching philosophies rather than grow with them and give them "permission" to be themselves - to express their own unique, special "genius". WG Thanks again Jim.

I agree with you (and him) – our role as coaches and sports professionals should be to recognise the unique genius inside every athlete and help them to unleash it.

Too many times we find talented kids then force them to learn our ways, our methods and adopt our coaching philosophies rather than grow with them and give them “permission” to be themselves – to express their own unique, special “genius”.

WG

]]> By: Wayne Goldsmith http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/talentidtips/comment-page-1/#comment-5850 Wayne Goldsmith Mon, 09 Aug 2010 09:51:04 +0000 http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/?p=1546#comment-5850 Hi Jim. I hadn't read his stuff - but thanks to you I just visited his web site and read a few articles. Interesting guy - very good stuff. Not sure if you have found it, but check out www.businesscoachingbrain.com and the article called "Leading without Leading". Let me know what you think. Thanks for the comment and advice. WG Hi Jim.

I hadn’t read his stuff – but thanks to you I just visited his web site and read a few articles.

Interesting guy – very good stuff.

Not sure if you have found it, but check out http://www.businesscoachingbrain.com and the article called “Leading without Leading”. Let me know what you think.

Thanks for the comment and advice.

WG

]]> By: Jim http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/talentidtips/comment-page-1/#comment-5848 Jim Mon, 09 Aug 2010 09:38:15 +0000 http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/?p=1546#comment-5848 I should have said "dont go looking AT individuals to discover why certain people are more talented than others, look at circumstances instead. I should have said “dont go looking AT individuals to discover why certain people are more talented than others, look at circumstances instead.

]]> By: Jim http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/talentidtips/comment-page-1/#comment-5847 Jim Mon, 09 Aug 2010 08:10:37 +0000 http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/?p=1546#comment-5847 Wayne, have you read "the genius in all of us" by David Shenk? Exploration of latest thinking on environmental factors influencing abilities of all kinds. The gentleman above is quite correct. You don't have to go looking for individuals to discover why certain people are more talented than others, look for circumstances instead. Wayne, have you read “the genius in all of us” by David Shenk? Exploration of latest thinking on environmental factors influencing abilities of all kinds. The gentleman above is quite correct. You don’t have to go looking for individuals to discover why certain people are more talented than others, look for circumstances instead.

]]> By: Wayne Goldsmith http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/talentidtips/comment-page-1/#comment-5840 Wayne Goldsmith Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:55:28 +0000 http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/?p=1546#comment-5840 Hi Nick. Good comment. Sporting Parents I.D. - would be an interesting set of testing protocols!!! For example: Does the Parent provide unconditional love and support of the child? Does the Parent work hard to develop core values and virtues in the child like honesty, integrity, discipline, hard work and humility? Does the Parent provide support with important things like quality nutrition, sleep and rest? Does the Parent have the capacity to keep sport and school in perspective and not become an over-zealous sporting parent? I think you are on to something! WG Hi Nick.

Good comment. Sporting Parents I.D. – would be an interesting set of testing protocols!!!

For example:

Does the Parent provide unconditional love and support of the child?
Does the Parent work hard to develop core values and virtues in the child like honesty, integrity, discipline, hard work and humility?
Does the Parent provide support with important things like quality nutrition, sleep and rest?
Does the Parent have the capacity to keep sport and school in perspective and not become an over-zealous sporting parent?

I think you are on to something!

WG

]]> By: Nick Johnston http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/talentidtips/comment-page-1/#comment-5813 Nick Johnston Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:13:28 +0000 http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/?p=1546#comment-5813 Hi Wayne, I agree with you that traditional "Talent" "ID" is barking up the wrong tree. Here's an alternative way to spend the money - why not screen the parents and the athletes support structures? I think it is well established that all the genetic advantages in the world won't mean much if you don't have the right things going on in your life (unless you're a freak, but why do you need a big screening process to spot a freak? Freak stand out like sore thumbs.) For the fat part of the bell curve, the ones who are going to have rely on hard work to get anywhere, we should ask whether they will be allowed to reach their potential by the people around them. Much more chance of success that way? Nick Hi Wayne,
I agree with you that traditional “Talent” “ID” is barking up the wrong tree. Here’s an alternative way to spend the money – why not screen the parents and the athletes support structures? I think it is well established that all the genetic advantages in the world won’t mean much if you don’t have the right things going on in your life (unless you’re a freak, but why do you need a big screening process to spot a freak? Freak stand out like sore thumbs.) For the fat part of the bell curve, the ones who are going to have rely on hard work to get anywhere, we should ask whether they will be allowed to reach their potential by the people around them. Much more chance of success that way?

Nick

]]> By: Wayne Goldsmith http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/talentidtips/comment-page-1/#comment-5791 Wayne Goldsmith Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:39:45 +0000 http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/?p=1546#comment-5791 Thanks James. Australia recently spent a lot of money doing an "independent" review of our talent id programs and systems and came up with the "great" idea of letting the same people do the same things the same way but with more money. These guys do not even respond to my emails and pleas for change, innovation, creativity and taking an integrated approach. Guess where it will all end up? WG WG Thanks James.

Australia recently spent a lot of money doing an “independent” review of our talent id programs and systems and came up with the “great” idea of letting the same people do the same things the same way but with more money. These guys do not even respond to my emails and pleas for change, innovation, creativity and taking an integrated approach.

Guess where it will all end up?

WG

WG

]]> By: james marshall http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/talentidtips/comment-page-1/#comment-5786 james marshall Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:52:51 +0000 http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/?p=1546#comment-5786 Hi Wayne, great post and very useful for a project I am working with at present. Here we no the dangers of just selecting the early developers- they either burn out or plateau before senior competition- but most of the governing bodies want you in their "system" by 16. They then spend more and more money trying to invest in the people already selected, rather than opening their eyes to others who are later developers, or who haven't had access to the coaching. Hi Wayne,
great post and very useful for a project I am working with at present. Here we no the dangers of just selecting the early developers- they either burn out or plateau before senior competition- but most of the governing bodies want you in their “system” by 16. They then spend more and more money trying to invest in the people already selected, rather than opening their eyes to others who are later developers, or who haven’t had access to the coaching.

]]> By: Wayne Goldsmith http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/talentidtips/comment-page-1/#comment-5774 Wayne Goldsmith Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:31:12 +0000 http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/?p=1546#comment-5774 Thanks Jeremy, Talent I.D. - sorry - I mean T.O.P.s is a real "soapbox" of mine. Time and time again I see people talking about what a great idea it is to have a TOP in place but then all they do is do mass screening of a certain age range looking for physical talent. That's like selecting your next motor vehicle by kicking one tyre. Let's keep striving to give every talented kid in the world every possible change to realise their potential. WG Thanks Jeremy,

Talent I.D. – sorry – I mean T.O.P.s is a real “soapbox” of mine. Time and time again I see people talking about what a great idea it is to have a TOP in place but then all they do is do mass screening of a certain age range looking for physical talent.

That’s like selecting your next motor vehicle by kicking one tyre.

Let’s keep striving to give every talented kid in the world every possible change to realise their potential.

WG

]]> By: Jeremy Pryce http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/talentidtips/comment-page-1/#comment-5770 Jeremy Pryce Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:23:05 +0000 http://www.sportscoachingbrain.com/?p=1546#comment-5770 You just keep churning out good stuff, huh Wayne? I especially like that you include the home environment as a important component in talent development. This has long been a strong belief of mine. I know too little about the genetic testing procedure to have an opinion on that. It all sounds high tech to me, which probably says more about me and where I am than anything else. Thanks Mate!! You just keep churning out good stuff, huh Wayne? I especially like that you include the home environment as a important component in talent development. This has long been a strong belief of mine.

I know too little about the genetic testing procedure to have an opinion on that. It all sounds high tech to me, which probably says more about me and where I am than anything else.

Thanks Mate!!

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